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lisjung

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BCD with back plates
« on: 20 Apr 14, 00:27 »
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  • hi peeps,

    was thinking of getting a BCD(non-jacket) and some of them comes with a metal backplate.
    anyone can advise if the metal backplate is worth getting cos it's much cheaper for a BCD without the backplate.


    TIA!!

    snikrs

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    Re: BCD with back plates
    « Reply #1 on: 20 Apr 14, 08:18 »
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  • I personally love the backplate/wing (BPW) system because its modular and it comes in one size, but can be freely adjusted. You can have a backplate and harness set to your size, but can switch out the wings to suit your diving purposes, very versatile.

    The BPW also allows for a more horizontal trim underwater, as compared to a jacket style BC. The air in the bladder doesn't wrap around your body, but it stays at the back in the wing where it should, lifting your back. Having a more horizontal trim makes you more streamlined in the water, and your kicks more efficient.

    Another benefit is that you don't get squeezed when the BC is inflated! Though I've got friends who actually like the squeeze because it feels warm and snug, but more importantly, because they can feel the amount of air in the bladder.

    Some drawbacks though, the BPW can be hard to pack for flights, especially if you use a stainless steel backplate because of the weight. They aren't flexible as well.

    The BPW also doesn't come with built-in pockets, but do come with a few D-rings. Some people purchase additional pouches, thigh pockets or shorts that come with pockets. These add to the cost of the BC. If you don't have much things to stow, you can simply clip them on the D-rings, though you will start to look like a Christmas tree and it sort of defeats the purpose of the BPW's advantage of horizontal trim and a streamlined profile.

    Lastly, the cost of the BC should not affect your decision. Choosing one that you will be comfortable in, and one that suits your purposes is more important. Quality and warranty is also rather important, as you might end up spending more on maintenance if the BC is lacking in these two areas.

    If not in a hurry, look around, and head down to the shops to try on some BCs! I had a great time visiting many shops and learned a great deal about diving from the people there while in search of my first BC. Have fun!

    EDIT: Here's a short article that has good graphics explaining how the BCD affects your center of gravity and trim in the water - http://www.practicaldiver.com/2013/08/why-you-should-choose-backplate-and.html.
    « Last Edit: 20 Apr 14, 08:27 by snikrs »

    kebosatu

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    Re: BCD with back plates
    « Reply #2 on: 20 Apr 14, 21:43 »
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  • Just bought dive rite Backplate XT Lite. Good deal but unsure with the lightness of it.  Website told it less than a kg.  But I ended up with 10 kg off baggage (dive gear only). First time use and see no issue at all.  No face slamming case.  Enjoyed it.  It just that the plate rusting after 2 days of diving. What we did just rinse it on fresh water after the end of dive. Checking with the dealer now what's going on...

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    Re: BCD with back plates
    « Reply #3 on: 20 Apr 14, 22:15 »
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  • I like the aluminum backplate/wing system. I started out with a Diverite Transpac but sold it and bought the BP/W. I like that its so simple, cheap, light, fast to dry and just a joy to dive. If the webbing wears out, I can buy it for a few dollars and it looks good as new again. And it's much lighter for travel, and very compact.


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    Re: BCD with back plates
    « Reply #4 on: 11 Jul 14, 22:05 »
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  • Hi, all. I'm looking for a back float BCD too. I went to 3-4 local shops,dive Rite sell about $800.OMS, Hollis & Scubapro can sell at $1400. And 2 dive instructors from scuba warehouse(walkiekie) gave different advises. one of them from Argentina promote me a travel back float BCD (from Italy, colorful wing, light weight2 kg) without a metal back plate. ( i wonder if he tried to clear stock, same brand standard model $1300 is out of stock).He said most of recreation dives are traveling over the world, easy to carry, the plastic D ring is strong enough for recreation dive. But looks like there are many recreation divers switching to tech BP/W, and many forum said it has better performance under water.(especial can transfer weight from belt to my back, i use 4x2kg for 3mm wetsuit, 3x2kg for 1.5 mm, both setting still slightly positive buoyancy at the end of dive).As a recreation diver, I don't need very pro tech BCD, just wish BP/W can help me improve my under water position and action(carry less weight). do you have any recommendation to me for a BCD brand and model? Or travel BCD is really more popular? thanks!

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    Re: BCD with back plates
    « Reply #5 on: 11 Jul 14, 23:07 »
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  • You may want to look for hogarthian style. And probably don't need all the bell and whistle for the start. Bare minimum is the way to go. An aluminium back plate and simple harness with 5 D-rings should suffice. The key is less point of failure with a single harness, no quick release, no plastics. The plate and D-rings should weighed you down abit. Probably will trim your weight to 1 or nil with a camband weight pocket. In return, you will be able to enjoy diving more without needing to "roll" in an inflated jacket style BCD and finding adjustment in water.

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    Re: BCD with back plates
    « Reply #6 on: 12 Jul 14, 00:35 »
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  • I switch from a back inflate BCD to a BP/W system. manage to reduce the weight used from 3 small(2lbs?) to 1 small weight. Both BCD are not much difference in terms of weigh so no gain in luggage space and for BP/W, you lose all pocket , really just wing and basic harness. IMO its gain in some, lose in some. if you get BP/W and add so much pocket....u might just get a back inflate with those pocket(for rec diver). For BP/W, using a stainless steel plate can make u neg and transfer weight from belt to back, but not ideal for travel. If you want to travel light, can go for those BP/W that is not metal plate(need weight belt of cos) that are much lighter. See link below for some example. Hope it helps. :)

    http://www.oxycheq.com/sport-dive-equipment/bcd-s/backplates-harnesses/backplates.html

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    Re: BCD with back plates
    « Reply #7 on: 12 Jul 14, 03:07 »
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  • Agree with epwing. Minimalist hogarthian style is the way to go. Alot of LDS carry dive rite bcds and accessories so finding one should be easy. The dive company had a promotion awhile back for their diverite single harness+aluminum plate+exp wing+SS cam straps for <SGD650 when i wanted to get my own bcd. Check their website or give them a call to check if the promotion is still ongoing. Check other stores live gill divers too. Hope to find one that fits your budget!
    « Last Edit: 12 Jul 14, 03:23 by Crash »

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    Re: BCD with back plates
    « Reply #8 on: 12 Jul 14, 09:09 »
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  • Agree with epwing. I never regret switching to BP/W. Am using fathom lite now and love. And because of the BP, I now use no weight or sometimes 1. It is not very ideal for traveling. Especially when you need to fly and check in. Which is why I have another dive rite travel pac. But at time I still pack my fathom lite in e luggage and I really love e feel of having very little stuff hanging around me. Cut down on 2 weight pouch is a lot to me. If you wanna buy a dive rite travel pac, check out fishermen scuba. Last time I ask them, it's the cheapest I have found in town. Really a lot do diff. Don't know if it's due to ADEX. But no harm checking.


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    Re: BCD with back plates
    « Reply #9 on: 12 Jul 14, 13:09 »
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  • Thanks all! So supervised receiving your reply so quickly. Looks like the only weakness of having metal BP/W is equal to carry my weights during traveling.  Need to pay a little bit more for luggage, No lost no gain. thanks again! :)