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Re: Suunto Zoop
« Reply #10 on: 08 Dec 10, 13:26 »
Am considering getting a dive computer for my future dives. Now looking at the Suunto Zoop or the D4. Price difference of at least $300 and of course the D4 can do more then the Zoop. However the Zoop should be sufficient for recreational divers right?

Yup, its good enough. If you don't intend to use it a watch, it's a great computer. Function more or less similar to the D4. For a dive computer that cost $300-ish, it's definitely worth it! I would have bought it myself if it was available sooner.
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Re: Suunto Zoop
« Reply #11 on: 08 Dec 10, 13:48 »
Battery replacement for the zoop is way cheaper than the D6 that i'm using right now and tt's enough for any recreational divers. Having one is better than not having one. At least with a dive com, u will cultivate the habit of checking your depth, ascent rate and etc.

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Re: Suunto Zoop
« Reply #12 on: 08 Dec 10, 13:53 »
Thanks to all the replies.  ;D
Yup, its good enough. If you don't intend to use it a watch, it's a great computer. Function more or less similar to the D4. For a dive computer that cost $300-ish, it's definitely worth it! I would have bought it myself if it was available sooner.

Battery replacement for the zoop is way cheaper than the D6 that i'm using right now and tt's enough for any recreational divers. Having one is better than not having one. At least with a dive com, u will cultivate the habit of checking your depth, ascent rate and etc.
I do agree that the Mola-Molas are a MYTH!

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Re: Suunto Zoop
« Reply #13 on: 08 Dec 10, 14:55 »
with a big dive computer, it is more likely that Murphy will visit you in the following ways

1. you leave it at home because you are going for the dive trip after work on Friday and you left home still groggy from Thursday ladies' night and wearing your normal watch
2. you leave the dive computer on the boat and lose it
3. you leave the dive computer at the restaurant and lose it
4. you leave the dive computer in the toilet and lose it
5. you take off the dive computer and put it on the bench so you can take off your wetsuit, and someone comes along and puts a tank on it. Tank 1, dive comp 0 (or many pieces)
6. you go for the morning dive and find out you left the dive computer in the room

and that's why most people are willing to pay a little more for the convenience... i am a firm believer of the watch-type dive computer and had to think long and hard before i went and got my current underwater brick

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Re: Suunto Zoop
« Reply #14 on: 08 Dec 10, 15:30 »
Good points from antacid.. following are my 2 cents..  ;D

with a big dive computer, it is more likely that Murphy will visit you in the following ways

1. you leave it at home because you are going for the dive trip after work on Friday and you left home still groggy from Thursday ladies' night and wearing your normal watch (if you can forget your dive comp, it is likely you will forget  to bring the many other bits of dive/photography gear.. I keep mine in my reg bag)
2. you leave the dive computer on the boat and lose it (wear it on your wrist)
3. you leave the dive computer at the restaurant and lose it (wear it on your wrist)
4. you leave the dive computer in the toilet and lose (wear it on your wrist)
5. you take off the dive computer and put it on the bench so you can take off your wetsuit, and someone comes along and puts a tank on it. Tank 1, dive comp 0 (or many pieces) (valid point.. I'm careful with where I place my dive comp and compass while putting on and taking off wetsuit)
6. you go for the morning dive and find out you left the dive computer in the room (wear it on your wrist)

and that's why most people are willing to pay a little more for the convenience... i am a firm believer of the watch-type dive computer and had to think long and hard before i went and got my current underwater brick

Dive comp is no different from any other dive or photography gear we lug around on trips.. packing your stuff in an orderly manner will minimise chances of Murphy visiting.  While at resort, I wear my dive comp just like a watch, afterall, it tells me time too.  My off diving days.. I like my watch as a watch (with arms and ticks).. not a watch like dive comp.. or a dive comp like watch!  ;D ;D ;D

I personally prefer BIG dive comps.. maybe I'm getting old.. I like BIG screens, BIG and well spaced buttons.  Bought my 2nd dive comp and not once have I ever consider having the 'convenience' of watch like DC... can't see the need really.  ;D
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Re: Suunto Zoop
« Reply #15 on: 08 Dec 10, 15:55 »
On the topic of Dive comp watch. Where does the Citizen Aqualand Eco-Drive come in?

There will be situations where I remove my watch, such as wearing my gloves to go over it and it's just impossible for the watch to stay on my hand throughout the day and throughout the trip. Though if you put your watch near a tank, you ought to smash it for a finer lesson in taking care of your things.
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Re: Suunto Zoop
« Reply #16 on: 08 Dec 10, 16:22 »
I guess the Citizen would be classified as a depth guage/bottom timer.
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Re: Suunto Zoop
« Reply #17 on: 08 Dec 10, 17:56 »
hi siaokao,

just fyi - if possible avoid the Mares Nemo Wide (i got that :-\)
bought becos of nice big screen and buttons BUT after some time the plastic buttons are hard to press properly and seems like the battery doesn't last that long.

Plus, got miffed the first thing an instructor asked me during an LOB was, "Nice comp, can it do gas switch?" I was like , "D-MMIT i forgot about that!" So now for any mixed gas can only use it as a bottom timer/gauge.
Big ones I am aware of are Galileo, UWATEC, LiquidVision and VR3.

Just general though - for watch-type i guess one does not really need to take off to wear wetsuit since it's smaller. just squeeze it through in and out the sleeve when suiting! my future computer might be a sunnto which can do a gas switch. problem i have with it is that it is conservative and locks out, cannot reset in an event one forgets to set the gas mix correctly. problem.

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Re: Suunto Zoop
« Reply #18 on: 08 Dec 10, 19:14 »
hi siaokao,

just fyi - if possible avoid the Mares Nemo Wide (i got that :-\)
bought becos of nice big screen and buttons BUT after some time the plastic buttons are hard to press properly and seems like the battery doesn't last that long.

Plus, got miffed the first thing an instructor asked me during an LOB was, "Nice comp, can it do gas switch?" I was like , "D-MMIT i forgot about that!" So now for any mixed gas can only use it as a bottom timer/gauge.
Big ones I am aware of are Galileo, UWATEC, LiquidVision and VR3.

Just general though - for watch-type i guess one does not really need to take off to wear wetsuit since it's smaller. just squeeze it through in and out the sleeve when suiting! my future computer might be a sunnto which can do a gas switch. problem i have with it is that it is conservative and locks out, cannot reset in an event one forgets to set the gas mix correctly. problem.

Hey Limk, I think Big refers to those wrist mounted non 'watch' (D4,D6,D9) like dive comp, such as the vyper, zoop kinda comp.  Those you mention are what antacid refer to as 'underwater' bricks!!!  But they are nice..  :D

The gas switching suunto u mention I suppose you are referring to HelO2?  I'm using one and unlike the other Suuntos, u can actually reduce its conservatism. I have yet to do trimix (my 2011 goal lah :P), but I read from reviews that at certain depth range, it can actually be more aggressive than the VR3 (or liquidvision cannot really remember) when set to P-2.  

And as for lock out.. I think you need to be careful with your dive planning before you download the plan to the divecomp.  Anyway, if the gas u carry is different from what is set on the dive comp.. u will be pretty screwed and dive comp locking out should be the last of your concerns..  ;D
« Last Edit: 08 Dec 10, 19:18 by siaokao »
So they call it a 'FACT' coz someone made some statements on a 'FACT SHEET'? hummm...

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Re: Suunto Zoop
« Reply #19 on: 09 Dec 10, 00:01 »
yea brick! haha.

a comp that locks out with no reset function is problematic because it's 24hrs.
my 1st experience was due to diving on backgas air and 50%O2 to accelerate deco,hence beeping at surface [mares nemo doesnt have the switch function but can reset]. was ok due to backup of using planned deco schedule brought down and thus used that. lesson learnt, and wrong setting is definitely unacceptable.

other experience was a lockout at 1st dive on LOB. noticed exceeded NDL midway the dive and couldnt clear even when gentle ascent profile used and hung around about 10min at 5m. since no prior dive and small penalty, the usual rest/shade/water/food & monitoring symptoms turned up nothing so it was ok.

big problem with a scenario of lockout in middle of LOB is that 24hr cannot use, and subsequent calc is wrong when using same comp or even new comp because of the residual nitrogen. there's some suggestions i come across about trying best to end dives 'clean' using safe profiles and optimal gases such to achieve minimal residual as possible. but in reality, safe profiles mean cannot go see shark long and optimal gases mean more $$$