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Re: Primary UW torch light
« Reply #10 on: 27 Dec 10, 09:45 »
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  • I have small hands and a rather bulky UW camera housing, so I like my torches small. ;p

    My main light is this:
    http://www.uwkinetics.com/products/mini-q40-eled-plus

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    Re: Primary UW torch light
    « Reply #11 on: 27 Dec 10, 09:53 »
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  • Will this be sufficient? http://www.gmmtechnoworld.com/servlet/the-205/diving-light/Detail

    I doubt this will be suitable as a primary, maybe the darkbuster 3W or 5W will be better? Also, check out the Intova Wide Angle torches.

    http://www.intova.net/category/products/waterproof-torches/

    My personal use - The DX torches "900" lumens and W200 (170lumens) torch

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.29069
    - With some simple DIY mod, this torch is great for the money but quality differs from batch to batch, just hope you've got a good one.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20762
    - This was to replace my intova which is "swimming with the fishes" in Redang. In hindsight, a backup torch should be reliable, bulletproof and works everytime when it's called upon. My first one flooded after one dive, replaced by DX and now the second one will not work at all. They'll probably replace it again for free but I suggest get a reliable backup from Princeton Tech, Underwater Kinetics or any of the reknown brans if you are going to be doing night dives.
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    Re: Primary UW torch light
    « Reply #12 on: 27 Dec 10, 09:57 »
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  • Where to buy the Intova wide angel locally? How much will it cost?

    You mean your torches from DX is not good?

    I doubt this will be suitable as a primary, maybe the darkbuster 3W or 5W will be better? Also, check out the Intova Wide Angle torches.

    http://www.intova.net/category/products/waterproof-torches/

    My personal use - The DX torches "900" lumens and W200 (170lumens) torch

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.29069
    - With some simple DIY mod, this torch is great for the money but quality differs from batch to batch, just hope you've got a good one.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20762
    - This was to replace my intova which is "swimming with the fishes" in Redang. In hindsight, a backup torch should be reliable, bulletproof and works everytime when it's called upon. My first one flooded after one dive, replaced by DX and now the second one will not work at all. They'll probably replace it again for free but I suggest get a reliable backup from Princeton Tech, Underwater Kinetics or any of the reknown brans if you are going to be doing night dives.
    I do agree that the Mola-Molas are a MYTH!

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    Re: Primary UW torch light
    « Reply #13 on: 27 Dec 10, 10:47 »
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  • So what will be your primary light? Or what you deem good enough to be one?
    "Good enough" differs vastly, depending on intent and budget.

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    Re: Primary UW torch light
    « Reply #14 on: 27 Dec 10, 10:57 »
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  • i've seen the aquatec one in action - simple, small and BRIGHT!

    would recommend that you consider how it is used too as there are handheld type, gun-handle & trigger type (like underwater kinectics), wrist mounted, hand mounted canister type.
    this affects how u can handle your video, camera or doing other stuff (shooting smb, running reel etc)
    too many things add stress and u might drop stuff
    if u always do day diving (and hate night diving cos u want to drink beer and join the bbq already started on the beach), then a smaller size & power of light should suffice as a safety torch, signal, and just to make pics look good  8)

    e.g. of the gun-handle trigger type http://www.google.com.sg/imglanding?q=underwater+kinetic+torch&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&rlz=1T4ADFA_enSG380SG380&biw=1360&bih=781&tbs=isch:1&tbnid=oIGcnYsYWz3tOM:&imgrefurl=http://www.diveimports.com/index.php%253Fact%253DviewProd%2526productId%253D255&imgurl=http://www.diveimports.com/images/uploads/torch_t04_d8_r.jpg&zoom=1&w=380&h=285&iact=rc&ei=dwAYTZ_rBYzNrQfi7rS4Cw&oei=dwAYTZ_rBYzNrQfi7rS4Cw&esq=1&page=1&tbnh=150&tbnw=203&start=0&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0
    « Last Edit: 27 Dec 10, 10:59 by limk »

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    Re: Primary UW torch light
    « Reply #15 on: 27 Dec 10, 11:04 »
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  • Looking at something handheld. Definitely not those gun handle type.
    i've seen the aquatec one in action - simple, small and BRIGHT!

    would recommend that you consider how it is used too as there are handheld type, gun-handle & trigger type (like underwater kinectics), wrist mounted, hand mounted canister type.
    this affects how u can handle your video, camera or doing other stuff (shooting smb, running reel etc)
    too many things add stress and u might drop stuff
    if u always do day diving (and hate night diving cos u want to drink beer and join the bbq already started on the beach), then a smaller size & power of light should suffice as a safety torch, signal, and just to make pics look good  8)

    e.g. of the gun-handle trigger type http://www.google.com.sg/imglanding?q=underwater+kinetic+torch&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&rlz=1T4ADFA_enSG380SG380&biw=1360&bih=781&tbs=isch:1&tbnid=oIGcnYsYWz3tOM:&imgrefurl=http://www.diveimports.com/index.php%253Fact%253DviewProd%2526productId%253D255&imgurl=http://www.diveimports.com/images/uploads/torch_t04_d8_r.jpg&zoom=1&w=380&h=285&iact=rc&ei=dwAYTZ_rBYzNrQfi7rS4Cw&oei=dwAYTZ_rBYzNrQfi7rS4Cw&esq=1&page=1&tbnh=150&tbnw=203&start=0&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0
    I do agree that the Mola-Molas are a MYTH!

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    Re: Primary UW torch light
    « Reply #16 on: 27 Dec 10, 11:48 »
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  • For canister lights.. Yazid did qualify its meant for Tech divers.  You do not just buy a canister light.. u gotta learn how to use one (drills with canister lights) and have the rest of the setup in tech specs.  Else, you may end up tangle up the wire, hose and in an emergency.. may have problem getting out of your BCD. Not recommended if you are not trained to use it.

    For a general purpose (primary) dive light, I'd recommend UK SL3.  LED with 98 lumens, 3x C size batteries with enuf reserve juice for a few dive trips.  Very robust construction.. DIR compliant and above all.. its relative cheap.  You should be able to get one for abt $70 come with batteries too! ;)

    U cannot use this for video thou.. as in all DIR compliant lights.. they have a hot spot, good for cutting thru poor viz, signaling and pointing, but some may not like this.

    Its may not be the brightest light underwater, but always 'above average' and is more than enuf for night dives.  But these days, I seldom use it coz I usually dive very close to the bottom and the SL3 is too bright! I use my small LED light (30 lumens??) from my strobe while at bottom.  Only use SL3 for signaling, during decent, accent and on surface. :)
    So they call it a 'FACT' coz someone made some statements on a 'FACT SHEET'? hummm...

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    Re: Primary UW torch light
    « Reply #17 on: 27 Dec 10, 11:54 »
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  • Thanks for the info. Will take a look at the UK SL3
    For canister lights.. Yazid did qualify its meant for Tech divers.  You do not just buy a canister light.. u gotta learn how to use one (drills with canister lights) and have the rest of the setup in tech specs.  Else, you may end up tangle up the wire, hose and in an emergency.. may have problem getting out of your BCD. Not recommended if you are not trained to use it.

    For a general purpose (primary) dive light, I'd recommend UK SL3.  LED with 98 lumens, 3x C size batteries with enuf reserve juice for a few dive trips.  Very robust construction.. DIR compliant and above all.. its relative cheap.  You should be able to get one for abt $70 come with batteries too! ;)

    U cannot use this for video thou.. as in all DIR compliant lights.. they have a hot spot, good for cutting thru poor viz, signaling and pointing, but some may not like this.

    Its may not be the brightest light underwater, but always 'above average' and is more than enuf for night dives.  But these days, I seldom use it coz I usually dive very close to the bottom and the SL3 is too bright! I use my small LED light (30 lumens??) from my strobe while at bottom.  Only use SL3 for signaling, during decent, accent and on surface. :)
    I do agree that the Mola-Molas are a MYTH!

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    Re: Primary UW torch light
    « Reply #18 on: 27 Dec 10, 14:31 »
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  • Actually the 2 dive lights recommended by livinouttabox is worth considering.  They uses Cree LEDs.. best in the world!  Looks like great value for the power.  However, reading user reviews, the usual "made in china" inconsistency seems like a problem for some.  Also, I do not like idea of re-chargeable batteries for simple dive lights.  I also like the smaller light.. I prefer bigger batteries though.. but at that price.. I may get a couple to try out!  ;D

    Ok.. scratch that.. tot its $20 something bucks.. $37.50 USD is too expensive for try outs..  :P
    « Last Edit: 27 Dec 10, 14:35 by siaokao »
    So they call it a 'FACT' coz someone made some statements on a 'FACT SHEET'? hummm...

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    Re: Primary UW torch light
    « Reply #19 on: 27 Dec 10, 15:14 »
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  • livinouttabox, could u advise us -> what modifications u made?

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    - With some simple DIY mod, this torch is great for the money but quality differs from batch to batch, just hope you've got a good one.