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Re: AOW & Choosing of gears
« Reply #20 on: 29 Dec 10, 15:14 »
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  • Sure thing. Maybe we can inform each other on the different dive school charges and which dive school each of us decide to learn from?

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    I did OW alone too....Haha.. you can join us for AOW if you are keen :)

    I do agree that the Mola-Molas are a MYTH!

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    Re: AOW & Choosing of gears
    « Reply #21 on: 29 Dec 10, 15:16 »
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  • oceanic is quite reasonable but not top range
    usually divers own their basic gear such as snorkel, mask, fins, wetsuit, weightbelt
    then move on after some experience, chitchat, courses etc
    how do u know u will stick to diving and not do something else later? (esp after marriage, OMG :o)

    i think if u buy all same time = dangerous due to task loading, and besides, it's expensive
    buy step by step = get used to gear gradually and can BARGAIN if go back same shop  ;D

    better to get a reg set or bcd first IMO at Adex if u can wait
    rent first and ask other divers what they use,why,where they buy etc

    Why do you say Oceanic is not top range? They are actually a very reputable brand from the US and they actually manufacture a lot of equipment for other companies like aeris, tusa to name a few.

    Back to the thread starter. If you can afford, I think it's better to get all your equipment at one go and then go to the pool to test the set-up in terms of buoyancy and trim. Instead of constantly adjusting stuff as you add new equipment.

    For trips and courses, if you're comfortable with the instructor at FWSS, you can always go back. They just had a christmas sale and i'm sure if you asked they can do a deal in terms of equipment for you. Also i know that FWSS always pre-sells their weekend trips to Aur at a discount if you buy early, can also ask them if that's available.

    If not, you can always look out for deals during ADEX in apr next year, or MIDE in KL in july. Or you can buy from the internet, USD$ and Bristish pound is low at the moment which makes for great shopping from US/UK. On a side note, most shops here will give a discount if you buy a whole set of equipment from them.
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    Re: AOW & Choosing of gears
    « Reply #22 on: 29 Dec 10, 15:20 »
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  • i think a decent fin can probably last u damm long.. almost forever ( if does not get bitten off by shark :))

    in AOW... u are taught to measure distance by your swimming/kicking so maybe getting a set of your own fins will be good for that..

    i always feel that essential gear at least to get is mask, fin, snorkel (optional), wetsuit

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    Re: AOW & Choosing of gears
    « Reply #23 on: 29 Dec 10, 15:21 »
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  • Realised that for currents it's generally more about technique than the fins per se. I would say for a basic pair of fins just get one of those composite open heel ones (my first pair's TUSA imprex, but my friend's Mares quattro are pretty good in currents)

    There's also split fins that give you pretty good propulsion when you do flutter kick but aren't quite as effective for the other finning styles.  Apollo bio-fins are pretty decent. Atomics is good too but feel too "soft" for me

    From what i know the fins that gives you the most propulsion are the full foot fins as compared to open heel ones. After using Jetfins for 10 years, i'm rather pleased with my Gull Mew full foot fins, easier to drive, no problems with currents, can do all sorts of finning styles and it's all rubber construction makes it pretty stiff and durable. But full foots aren't for all types of diving, esp rocky shore dives or dives where you have to walk about with your BC/tank over terrain.
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    Re: AOW & Choosing of gears
    « Reply #24 on: 29 Dec 10, 15:22 »
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  • Sure thing. Maybe we can inform each other on the different dive school charges and which dive school each of us decide to learn from?

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    It's more advisable to look at the professionalism and rapport with the instructor as compared to the cost? As the saying goes, pay peanuts, get monkeys.  ;D
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    Re: AOW & Choosing of gears
    « Reply #25 on: 29 Dec 10, 15:27 »
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  • @Alvin
    Nice input on full foots. Have always been using open-heel. Mebbe I should just get a pair to try try ;p

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    Re: AOW & Choosing of gears
    « Reply #26 on: 29 Dec 10, 15:45 »
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  • I also will like to look at that but after talking to a few instructors. All showed their professionalism and i get along with them too. I believe most of the divers will recommen their own dive schools and instructors so who to choose and pick???
    It's more advisable to look at the professionalism and rapport with the instructor as compared to the cost? As the saying goes, pay peanuts, get monkeys.  ;D
    I do agree that the Mola-Molas are a MYTH!

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    Re: AOW & Choosing of gears
    « Reply #27 on: 29 Dec 10, 16:02 »
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  • I'm actually quite on good terms with some of them. professionalism wise, its difficult to judge by the surface.
    If I neeed to get my basic gears, I would need to depend on the pricing for my AOW too. Poor mouse :(

    I also will like to look at that but after talking to a few instructors. All showed their professionalism and i get along with them too. I believe most of the divers will recommen their own dive schools and instructors so who to choose and pick???

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    Re: AOW & Choosing of gears
    « Reply #28 on: 29 Dec 10, 16:09 »
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  • All equipments will cost a range of few thousands right?

    Ya FWSS just had sales, but I didnt manage to make it down :( Besides I figured that the season is still close therefore I thought there shouldnt be any rush. But still, I was hoping to get em before I take my AOW. I have been Aur for my OW and leisure dives, thinking of trying other places. I could even memorize what food they serve in Aur.

    Buying online, i wouldnt be sure of the fitting?

    Why do you say Oceanic is not top range? They are actually a very reputable brand from the US and they actually manufacture a lot of equipment for other companies like aeris, tusa to name a few.

    Back to the thread starter. If you can afford, I think it's better to get all your equipment at one go and then go to the pool to test the set-up in terms of buoyancy and trim. Instead of constantly adjusting stuff as you add new equipment.

    For trips and courses, if you're comfortable with the instructor at FWSS, you can always go back. They just had a christmas sale and i'm sure if you asked they can do a deal in terms of equipment for you. Also i know that FWSS always pre-sells their weekend trips to Aur at a discount if you buy early, can also ask them if that's available.

    If not, you can always look out for deals during ADEX in apr next year, or MIDE in KL in july. Or you can buy from the internet, USD$ and Bristish pound is low at the moment which makes for great shopping from US/UK. On a side note, most shops here will give a discount if you buy a whole set of equipment from them.

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    Re: AOW & Choosing of gears
    « Reply #29 on: 29 Dec 10, 16:15 »
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  • Hello all !

    AOW-
    Anybody know of a good discount deal by any dive center if there is roughly 4 people for Malaysia areas such as Dayang, Tioman, Aur for next year once season opens?

    Gears-
    I was wondering if anybody would suggest to get basic gears first such as wetsuit, fins, mask before taking AOW?
    I'm pretty new in diving but have been joining different group of friends for couple of trips and its gonna be ongoing, but I have yet to get my gears yet. Neither do I have any idea what type of gears to get as every individual suggest a different type and I may have a tight budget, its a pity I missed out Xmas sales!

    Let me hear your opinions?

    A Few Considerations that might hopefully help you decide. You can normally pick up a basic package that includes:

    Wetsuit - It doesn't get cold in this region so just protect up against the corals no need for the fancy technology like stretchy neoprene, etc. It's not that inflexible to start with (up to 3mm)

    Snorkel & Mask - White or Black Skirting? Single or two Lens?

    Fins - Full Foot (FF) served me well and provides most propulsion, not good in Bali at Tulamben (Ouch with them damn stones!). If you don't like the feeling of paddle fins, consider Split Fins (Apollo Bio/Tusa/Atomic) but purely for recreational purposes, very good straight line speed and so easy to fin. Then you have your big heavy rubber fins(Jets, IDI Power Fins, Slipstream), no experience with them yet but loads of the people here like them. My gripe is that I like travelling light and they are just unnecessary luggage weight. All depends on your usage and travelling style

    For a discounted price at Dive Companies. If you're asking about individual recommendations, it's hard to get an impartial response here since most people love the gear they dive in. From my own experience, my first set of gear cost me $200 and they're still with me. I'm more inclined towards patiently assembling your gear via the 2nd hand route, cheaper and if you don't like it you don't lose too much pass it on. Loads of good bargains out there if you're patient.

    Regarding online purchases, never had much problem with fit except one leaky mask and I'm still using it, like stingy eyes you see ;D
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