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PADI, NAUI or SSI?
« on: 18 May 10, 22:21 »
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  • Hi divers,

    I am doing some research before I start to learn diving.

    What is the different between these agencies?
    Which agency is a better one, what are the advantage?
    Can I dive with a PADI dive centre if I am certified by NAUI or vice-versa?

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    Re: PADI, NAUI or SSI?
    « Reply #1 on: 18 May 10, 23:52 »
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  • All 3 agencies teach roughly the same syllabus when it comes to the open water course. More importantly is finding an instructor who you're comfortable with and is experienced and knowledgeable.
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    Re: PADI, NAUI or SSI?
    « Reply #2 on: 10 Nov 10, 00:09 »
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  • I agree with Alvin Ho the instructor is the most important part.  Look for low student to instructor ratio and with plenty of Dive Masters in the pool and open water part of the training. Read and understand all the material if you have questions, ask.

    SSI focuses on training under instructor supervision. They promote advancement to Advanced Open Water after you finish your Open water course with experience levels as you gain a certain number of dives.

    PADI is the largest and most widely recognized.  They encourage you to get slow experience on your own, can be difficult if you don't have someone to dive with or cant afford a charter trip. 

    NAUI is good also, in my experience a bit more technically oriented but good. 

    All agencies have specialty courses from photography, fish identification, deep, night, drift,... to many to name, and now they all have technical diving courses if you ever want to go that route.
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    « Reply #3 on: 10 Nov 10, 19:11 »
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  • I agree with Alvin Ho the instructor is the most important part.  Look for low student to instructor ratio and with plenty of Dive Masters in the pool and open water part of the training. Read and understand all the material if you have questions, ask.

    SSI focuses on training under instructor supervision. They promote advancement to Advanced Open Water after you finish your Open water course with experience levels as you gain a certain number of dives.

    PADI is the largest and most widely recognized.  They encourage you to get slow experience on your own, can be difficult if you don't have someone to dive with or cant afford a charter trip. 

    NAUI is good also, in my experience a bit more technically oriented but good. 

    All agencies have specialty courses from photography, fish identification, deep, night, drift,... to many to name, and now they all have technical diving courses if you ever want to go that route.


    Why do you think Naui is more technically oriented?
    One thing that Naui is different from the other two agencies is that they teach basic rescue techniques at open water level (Naui scuba diver).

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    « Reply #4 on: 15 Nov 10, 15:32 »
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  • i learnt skin diving techniques during naui o/water course with instructor
    because of their 'academic freedom' principle to introduce lexibility of curriculum, i learnt how to ditch/don skin dive gear in a pool session, learn diff entry techniques with skin dive gear from boat side (e.g.). cool!
    not all agencies allow instructors to modify curriculum and hence more limited.
    naui instructors are required to meet basic naui requirements and even potentially exceed them where their judgement find suitable.

    naui's roots go back to assisting nasa at the neutral buoyancy lab for astronauts also means they do have a strong foundation of research and feedback in practice, for eg. with use of nitrox for recreation way back to the 70's i think.

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    Re: PADI, NAUI or SSI?
    « Reply #5 on: 15 Nov 10, 17:52 »
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  • I usually keep away from 'mine is better' kinda thread.. but this one.. I really cannot help it!   ;D

    Let me 1st clarify I'm PADI certified, but I'm not saying its the best.  All I like to say is PADI do offer plenty of flexibility as far as training goes. As I understand, there are the 'must do' and the 'optionals'.. instructors are free to enhance the course as long as safety is not compromised.  And yes, PADI do teach OW students to don/doff scuba gear both in pool and during OW dives. I remember my 1st leisure dive trip, already I have to do boat side entry and don gear in water.  So, I dun think this is exclusive to Naui. 8)

    I've heard good things abt Naui, but not having been to any SSI or Naui trainings, I cannot possibly be in a position to provide meaningful comparison. ;)
    So they call it a 'FACT' coz someone made some statements on a 'FACT SHEET'? hummm...

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    « Reply #6 on: 15 Nov 10, 20:16 »
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  • i learnt skin diving techniques during naui o/water course with instructor
    because of their 'academic freedom' principle to introduce lexibility of curriculum, i learnt how to ditch/don skin dive gear in a pool session, learn diff entry techniques with skin dive gear from boat side (e.g.). cool!
    not all agencies allow instructors to modify curriculum and hence more limited.
    naui instructors are required to meet basic naui requirements and even potentially exceed them where their judgement find suitable.

    naui's roots go back to assisting nasa at the neutral buoyancy lab for astronauts also means they do have a strong foundation of research and feedback in practice, for eg. with use of nitrox for recreation way back to the 70's i think.

    Actually, NAUI only officially endorsed the use of nitrox in 1992.
    While the rest of what you said are largely true, I don't think that really qualify NAUI as more technically oriented. Perhaps you get that impression because you took your courses with rainbowreef scuba (I'm guessing, judging by your sig), which teaches tech courses through NAUI, IANTD and UTD. Naturally, their instructors would be more technically oriented.

    I took my NAUI courses from a seasoned course director who is also a lifeguard examiner, and I learned a lot from him on dive safety and rescue. I especially enjoyed my rescue course a lot. He didn't stop at the requirements and had us try out several rescue techniques both on Scuba and skin. We also tried par-buckling etc. He even taught us a bit of 推拿 to help ease sea-sickness. lol
    « Last Edit: 15 Nov 10, 20:20 by Lj82 »

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    « Reply #7 on: 15 Nov 10, 20:22 »
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  • Let me 1st clarify I'm PADI certified, but I'm not saying its the best.  All I like to say is PADI do offer plenty of flexibility as far as training goes. As I understand, there are the 'must do' and the 'optionals'.. instructors are free to enhance the course as long as safety is not compromised.  And yes, PADI do teach OW students to don/doff scuba gear both in pool and during OW dives. I remember my 1st leisure dive trip, already I have to do boat side entry and don gear in water.  So, I dun think this is exclusive to Naui. 8)


    I don't think he is talking about the usual scuba removal and don, but skin ditch and don.

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    « Reply #8 on: 15 Nov 10, 20:35 »
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  • I don't think he is talking about the usual scuba removal and don, but skin ditch and don.

    Don't mean to be offensive, but what's the relevent learning this for skin diving?  Can always do these on the surface if skin diving, isn't it?

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    « Reply #9 on: 15 Nov 10, 20:43 »
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  • Don't mean to be offensive, but what's the relevent learning this for skin diving?  Can always do these on the surface if skin diving, isn't it?

    This is not a "practical skill" that teaches you how to deal with certain situations underwater. This is more of a confidence-building/proficiency skill. People who have tried and succeeded in doing the skin ditch and don would understand how much he/she can achieve in one breathe-hold, and also understand how rushing with wild and large movements underwater causes CO2 to build up faster and makes the skill more difficult to accomplish.

    I am not an instructor and this is just how I see the relevance of this skill. I probably didn't articulate my point well enough to do this skill justice.