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Advice For Bali
« on: 16 Aug 11, 20:40 »
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  • Hi

    Need some advice for diving in Bali. 

    Am heading there in a week time.  Would like to know how cold can the water get in Nusa Penida during the search for Molas?

    Would diving in a 3mm vest (no sleeves) and a 3mm pants be surfice?  Yes, I will also be wearing a rash guard as well. Do I really need a 5mm suit and/or a hood?

    Please advice.

    Thank you.


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    Re: Advice For Bali
    « Reply #1 on: 16 Aug 11, 20:52 »
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  • Hi

    Need some advice for diving in Bali. 

    Am heading there in a week time.  Would like to know how cold can the water get in Nusa Penida during the search for Molas?

    Would diving in a 3mm vest (no sleeves) and a 3mm pants be surfice?  Yes, I will also be wearing a rash guard as well. Do I really need a 5mm suit and/or a hood?

    Please advice.

    Thank you.


    I'm overweight and had alot of body fats to keep me warm.... and yet, still need a 4mm wetsuit over my rash guard to keep me warm. Water temp change alot at Nusa Penida.... outside the themo... could be 26deg. The moment you past throught the themo... it could drop to 22deg. And as you go deep to hunt for Mola.... it could drop to 19deg or less.... therefore, I strongly advise you use at the very least... a 3mm to 4mm fullsuit. A hood is also recommended if you get cold easily.  ;)
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    Re: Advice For Bali
    « Reply #2 on: 16 Aug 11, 20:56 »
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  • Can go down to about 17degC. At times, its rather comfortable 26deg C. I think different ppl have different tolerance for low temp diving.  I have a fren can dive there in a 3mm wetsuit and comfortable.  For me, i need my regular 2/3mm fullsuit and 5mm hooded vest.. and still shivering underwater.  Next year I'll try 5mm fullsuit+hooded vest.  ;)
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    Re: Advice For Bali
    « Reply #3 on: 16 Aug 11, 23:28 »
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  • diving at 17 degree is real torture. I wore a rash guard + heat guard + 3mm long suit and 3 mm shortie. First dive of the day you will not feel anything. Is the second dive when your body get wet and re-entry into the cold water, then u know what is call chilled water. It has come to the extend that on my third dive, I have to pee inside to warm myself. yes sound disgusting, if not I will have to make the whole group abandon that dive.

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    Re: Advice For Bali
    « Reply #4 on: 17 Aug 11, 09:09 »
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  • hehehe, nice
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    Re: Advice For Bali
    « Reply #5 on: 17 Aug 11, 09:32 »
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  • Maybe add a drysuit cert to your trip?  I like to be warm, less cramping, better hydration and air lasts better.  If a drysuit is out, then I would go with a 5mm.
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    Re: Advice For Bali
    « Reply #6 on: 17 Aug 11, 10:55 »
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  • Bring more thermal protection and layer as needed. For me i would start with a thermal rashguard, either 0.5mm or fleece/polartec or hooded vest. Then a 5mm wetsuit and hood and gloves. Remember we lose most of our heat through the extremeties so a hood and gloves might keep you more comfortable in cold water. Lastly maybe another vest for extra chest layer warmth or a 3mm shorty over your wetsuit.
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    Re: Advice For Bali
    « Reply #7 on: 17 Aug 11, 12:55 »
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  • I'll suggest wearing a single piece Semi-Dry suit (Mares, Cressi, Scubapro and Waterproof ones are pretty good)for those discussed conditions. When you layer on you still expose yourself to the water transmission in and out of your wetsuit which draws from your body temperature to warm up. This makes it very uncomfortable at 17 - 22 deg water when the chill hits the spine (its also the constant temperature change with makes it very uncomfortable). Layering on adds unnecessary buoyancy which you have to weigh to compensate since the additional layers traps water that aren't that close to your body to be warmed up efficiently.
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    Re: Advice For Bali
    « Reply #8 on: 17 Aug 11, 14:07 »
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  • Agreed that sometimes layering is uneccessary. BUT.... Most times your semi dry wetsuit is not totally fitting and therefore the chance of water seepage into the suit is pretty high.

    I would suggest a fitting thermal rashguard that will act as an effective trap for water and make it very unlikely for water seepage to occur. Any additional layer will help, not in terms of water trapping but in terms of thermal protection.
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    Re: Advice For Bali
    « Reply #9 on: 17 Aug 11, 14:19 »
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  • Thermal rashguard with polartec or reflective properties are good too. If your seals leak it not the right size to start with so you're right the seepage makes it uncomfortable throughout the dive. I guess my point would be that if you can minimise wearing additional neoprene and get just as good an exposure protection / with good seals and lesser neoprene to weight over it's not a bad option (in fact, its my preferred option).

    Having gone the farmer john multi layer route before I hated the restrictive feeling from additional neoprene bulk and the hassle of taking off wet layers of neoprene and worse, donning it for repeated dives.
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